The Thalmor Dessier (The same journal explaining how they wanted Ulfric to start a rebellion) also notes that a Stormcloak victory is to be avoided.ДЄs for the Thalmor invading Skyrim, that would result exactly like Napoleon's invasion of Russia. It would be far less messy for them if the Stormcloaks won.ДЄ Stormcloak victory would be the end of Skyrim.ДЄ Stormcloak victory would be the end of Skyrim. Alone they would stand no chance against the Thalmor, and the Thalmor WANT Skyrim, and they WANT it independent. I agree that they are morally right in their rebellion, just not practically. Try asking Hitler and Napoelon what happened when they tried to invade a snowy area with stretched supply lines, along with the enemy using ambushes, along with dangerous wildlife.Д®DIT: To answer the forum's question, I occassionally play as a Khajiit and Imperial, so yes, I do support the Stormcloaks when non-Nord. Originally posted by Sycadale:The Stormcloak Bible justifies why the Stormcloaks are right.ДЄlso, all races in the Elder Scrolls have been racists, so it's pretty unfair to use 'Stormclaoks are Racists!' argument against them.ДЄnd yes, Skyrim can invade itself. They secede, then we find an excuse to invade. As a high elf I want the stormcloaks to win as they will be easier to defeat if they secede from the empire. Originally posted by Espgarude:When first time playing the game, like most people, I immedietly have negative feeling towards the empire. Only one or two will join the Imperials soon. Now I just don't bother with the civil war, because most of the characters I have started really don't give a rats ass about the Civil War and thinks it's stupid. Second playthrough I was part of the Legion, but the character was an vampire assassiin, so she just killed everyone. Aleast the Emperor in Oblivion didn't do any of that crap. What's more then the Dragonborn betraying the Legion for the Dark Brotherhood.ДЄnyways, on my first playthrough as a Nord hero, I joined the Stormcloaks, to be fair I was threatened to be executed by the Legion, so made sense to join the Stormcloaks when they had no evidence the character was responsible for any wrongdoing. And then makes the whole place that is in flames, and the way Festus was killed makes more sense. That would be a great RP though, do the DB storyline, the start anyways, then finish off the Imperial legion stuff anf the Emperor, he won't know what hits them when the Dragonborn attempts to assassinate him, which then makes it even more interesting knowing Astrid betrayed the santucary and that commander guy is furious as all hell. Sounds to be in character for a member of the Dark Brotherhood, to me. Swear an oath to serve him, then kill him? Originally posted by Chancellor Vlad:I believe it is more awkward to kill the emperor after joinin the empire. Maybe like, you're a high-elf who joins the stormcloak to weaken the empire so that the Aldmeri Dominion could gain some benefit, darn that's brilliant.ДЄnd please refrain from.uh, 'cursing and shaming' poeple who doesn't agree with you. So I was wondering, is there anyone who is NOT playing as a nord, but supports the stormcloak?Д«esides the usual 'imperials wants to chop my head off for no reason' I want to see some reasonable, well, reason to support thier cause as a non-nord. I guess if you actually do something for their cause regardless of race they'll respect you eventually.I'm fine with that I guess. The stormcloak faction looks cool I'll give you that, but the 'racism' ruined it. When first time playing the game, like most people, I immedietly have negative feeling towards the empire.Д«ut then, when I entered windhelm, I'm surprised of how these.'proud nord' people discriminate against other races, especially non-humans (even Ulfric himself didn't do nothin' about it what the heck?)

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